MAHASANA PR. AND BIF
Hare Krsna!
BIF: Hare Krsna,
>>I am Srila Prabhupada’s disciple, (as we all are or should be), initiated 1975. I left ISKCON in 1981 feeling very dissatisfied with the gurus and how the devotees in the temples seemed to just overlook how the gurus were doing crazy things. It felt like a type of blindness that wasn’t there when Srila Prabhupada was in charge. His life wasn’t full of deviations and cover-ups. Anyway, I left and kept my distance for 3 decades. Deep down inside I loved Srila Prabhupada but was confused as to how he could appoint such crazy people as his successors.
BIF: Thank You for your letter Mahasana ji, and for your courage in keying it. It was the loss of devotees like yourself that truly impacted corporate iskcon, and the brain-drain continues as those with intelligence ask themselves how a spotless acarya, who had not made a single error in his entire lila, uncharacteristically made eleven in one day. However, as evidence shows, you never really left. This lends weight to belief that love for guru and matha is a state of the heart.
>>A friend of mine urged me to read “Someone Has Poisoned Me”. It took me a few months before I picked up the book, but when I read it, everything fell into place. It was crystal clear to me that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned and that his poisoners were the leaders who took over the movement, particularly Tamal Krsna Goswami, who I am convinced directly poisoned Srila Prabhupada.
BIF: Prabhuji, welcome to the ranks of those who have been branded rats, cockroaches, kalichelas, and poison vadis by the GBC. At least here your realizations will not be compromised by a need to fill your belly. There are several, if not most, within the iskcon administration who are in tacit agreement with your own conclusions, but are forced by their insecurities to live in the consciousness of sheep, and have become complicit in doing so.
>>Also, I realized that Srila Prabhupada did not appoint initiating gurus but ritvik gurus, priests to represent Prabhupada in the formalities of initiating. I received my first initiation in ’75 by Srila Prabhupada and in ’77 by Ramesvara Swami (in his ritvik capacity, as Srila Prabhupada was in India and very sick). So, I realized that the same process was meant to be continued and that upon Srila Prabhupada’s passing, a concoction based on falsities was put forward as Prabhupada’s desire.
BIF: Herein lies the crux of the crime; the origins of the Acarya-ha sampradaya. Led by a blind ambitious fool who refused to accept that he was o-so-mercifully given membership to an ism originating from the Lord Himself, and only shortly after deciding whether chicken or beef was on the menu, they anointed themselves acaryapada, visnupada, bahktipada, etc., etc. When there was protest, the protesters were told that dogs could bark but the caravan will go on. What they could not see then, or now, is that the caravan is moving through Maya Devi's desert, nothing escapes the amphitheatre of Her attention. Already Her ferocity is becoming very visible. Bhakticaru, Bhavananda, Satadhanya et al, should know by now- She has them fixed firmly in Her crosshairs.
>>Indeed, in 1977 right after Srila Prabhupada had passed away, there were rumors floating around the movement and I had heard in San Diego that Srila Prabhupada had complained about being poisoned. I brought this up to (I believe, as I am not positive who, but nearly positive) Badrinarayana dasa and he said that Srila Prabhupada was very sick and was a little confused. So I remember this vaguely but what I do remember was that the rumor was floating around ISKCON that Srila Prabhupada complained about being poisoned and the implication was that Srila Prabhupada had a little dementia. I accepted this at the time but it really didn’t ring true to my heart.
BIF: The "sick and confused", "dementia" myth, was circulated by Tamal Krsna as part of his smoke-and-mirror contriviance to cover the stench of poison. It was further endorsed by his puppy-dogs, who directly backed him and camouflaged the misprision by pointing to him as Srila Prabhupada's confidante and chosen one. What is truly unbelievable is that senior management, those who were there, gave Srila Prabhupada's declaration no credence while inhaling deeply on Tamal's ganja. In retrospect, it brings to mind a quote from Shakespeare's Othello- "I will kill thee now and love thee later". The truth is, as attested to by the final conversation tapes, His Divine Grace had a razor sharp awareness of his predicament and surroundings, certainly sharper than his toxic 'carers' who were jockeying shamelessly for position in the inheritance stakes.
>>That time also it was ok to discuss in the temple whether “everything you need to know” was in Srila Prabhupada’s books and therefore, what was the need for these new gurus? We discussed this issue repeatedly during Srimad Bhagavatam class without there being any consequences. As time went on, however, this type of discussion was canned and I remember feeling like although there was no closure to the question, we could no longer speak about it and had to move on, accepting the gurus as bona fide. Frankly, I was out of the loop of power so I was not aware of how mandates were handed down. Like the typical rank and file devotee, I went along, as knowledge is passed from the more advanced to the less.
BIF: All toxin bearing predators use the same methodology you describe above: they deliver the venom and wait for the victim to asphyxiate before devouring it. What we also see, is how a cult subjected by a hierarchal head, locked in on all sides by a 'no vote' structured governance; officers for life, makes the perfect incubator to hatch a murder-for-profit scheme and cover. After all, if there was no question of homicide by the officers who were there, and all further appointments were/are made by internal selection, why would new appointees question what their selectors did not?** It is why Tamal Krsna, using his position as secretary, hid the DOM, and by so doing initiated the brain drain that could quite easily have exposed the truth.
**Read our "Letters to the void" if you want to see how new appointees to the GBC, squirm when confronted by this issue.
>>I remember, around 1998 or so, I was told that Srila Prabhupada’s books were being edited and it was controversial. So, I got a Revised and Enlarged version of the Bhagavad-Gita As It Is and I turned immediately to verse 4:34 and jumped to the purport. I compared it to my dusty, original copy and low and behold, the sentence, “Nor by independent study of books of knowledge can one progress in spiritual life,” was added. I hadn’t touched Srila Prabhupada’s books in years and that was the very first place I went. That’s when I became convinced that there was something very foul going on. They had answered the question all right, about needing or not needing a guru when everything was “in my books”. They answered the question by changing Srila Prabhupada’s words, and this was done in the slipperiest of ways.
BIF: "Like a ripe mango" the instructions have been passed down through time immemorial by the holiest of the holy, and now we encounter parasite editors attempting to contaminate this treasured fruit by stinging it with their eggs. However, we can all see, the skin is impregnable; the eggs lie infertile on the surface bereft of offspring. They will all die, parasites and eggs, only His Divine Grace lives forever, far beyond the reach of murderers, demons, and mundane editors.
>>My life, however, really changed when I read “Someone Has Poisoned Me.” At the time I was very sick with a digestive disorder and I wasn’t sure whether I had long to live. When I read this book, I cried my eyes out and realized from my own situation that Srila Prabhupada suffered to try to save me. I would lay on my bed balled up in pain, close my eyes, and pretend to just hold onto Srila Prabhupada’s lotus feet. That was my only peace and my only penance.
BIF: It is very difficult for those who have never been targeted by the GBC and their goons to understand the treatment meted out to Nityananda Prabhu for his revelations in the book- Someone has Poisoned Me. They excommunicated him for simply stating what was already a fact: our Gurudeva believed that he had been poisoned. That is why Tamal Krsna had the audacity to do what he did. He knew he had subjudicated the whole damn lot of them by using only the first two tenets of compromise as revealed in sastra: "gifts" and "position". Yes, even the devil knows scripture.
On a more personal note, thank you Mahasana Pr., for sharing your realizations with us. The enforced fable that Srila Prabhupada's mercy leaves us destitute once we leave iskcon, has been used like a jackhammer by the GBC for years. We now know (like many other-"Prabhuapada said" quotes) it was applied as nothing more than a psychological key to lock away the doormats. "Don't be surprised who goes, be surprised who stays", leans to a very different intereptation these days.
>>Later, I read the ISKCON rebuttal, “Not That I Am Poisoned”, and listened to Danavir and others either gloss over the legitimate claims and questions that “Someone Has Poisoned Me” raised, or, call the devotees, who raised these painful questions, demons. Why, I wondered? I had these questions too and reading Nityananda dasa’s book made sense of it all. When I read Bhakti Caru’s testimony, the message I got was, “If you dare say Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, you best watch your back because Guru Kripa or some thug will beat you up or perhaps kill you.” His testimony felt like a veiled threat, and I thought, “What a sneaky worm.”
BIF: Of the main characters in the poison issue, Bhakticaru is the biggest coward of all. We hear him in the final conversation tapes (1977), telling others that Srila Prabhupada's says he is being poisoned, and the morning after His Divine Grace left his body, Bhakticaru could not contain his guilt, he was crying in the passage beside the temple, when Abhinandana das asked why he was crying he admitted that Prabhupada had been poisoned although he would not say by whom. Twenty three years later he secretly financed the book "Not that I am Poisoned", and wrote a statement in which he claimed- "When I first heard about this allegation I considered it to be so absurd that I did not think it deserved any response". We put a set of questions to this mahajana, which can be read on BIF. He refused to answer on the grounds that he did not know us.
So we have seen how Maya Devi has publicly smashed many of those who supported Tamal's book- Not That I am Poisoned": Bhaktitirtha (who called us rats and cockroaches) was eaten publicly by the vermin cells of his own body. Tamal was smashed and his stiffened carcass needed further smashing to fit into his 'samadhi'. Jaypataka's body has been twisted out of shape. You will need eyes tinged with the salve of stupidity to envision him as the ecclesiastical face of Krsna- a description of the GBC that can be directly attributed to him. We have pulled up our chairs to watch what the material energy has in store for Bhakticaru, Bhavananda, and the beast- Satadhanya et al. You can be sure it wont be a show for the faint hearted....and then they will come back to do it all over again, and again, and again, and...
>>When I finally read, “Judge For Yourself,” I could see the truth. ISKCON was involved in a grand deception, led by the prime murder suspect, Tamal Krsna Goswami, who was secretly behind “Not That I Am Poisoned”. I felt that “Someone Has Poisoned Me” was a serious punch in the stomach for ISKCON and “Not That I Am Poisoned”, was a hit below the belt. “Judge For Yourself” was a follow up counter punch that knocked ISKCON to the mat. Unfortunately, the fight persists, as ISKCON has a corner man that puts weights in the gloves and salt on the leather, in the form of money and organization.
BIF: Even before the GBC book went to print, the manuscript was given to this writer for perusal. Both, the author and publisher of the book were well known to us. We can say without any doubt that neither of the two would have ventured into this dark area other than for the fact they were under orders from Tamal Krsna, Bhakticaru, Jayapataka et al. Their 'surrender' was commandeered by the cabal. This being the whole point in the 'no vote', officer for life program. We also knew that when given a specific task to accomplish, the author, by his very nature, would seek to execute his mission quickly and under guidance of superiors. Since we had recognized his superiors to be criminals, it was evident that the book would be nothing if not a con.....and that's exactly what it proved to be.
It is interesting to note that prior to releasing our rebuttal- "Judge for Yourself" (JFY), the BIF team was discussing the possibilities of legal repercussions in the form of libel/slander/defamation. It took us less than fifteen minutes to conclude the GBC would never go legal. We knew they were dumb, but not that dumb. And true to our understanding, as soon as we released the book (JFY), they headed for the hills, dived into their holes, pulled down the shutters, and that's where they remain to this day. No amount of taunting or baiting has succeeded in drawing them out. We thought about using toxins, but that's for dirty, filthy, low-down cowards and snakes, not devotees.
>>Recently, I again read, “Judge For Yourself” just to keep my focus on the priorities of life. “Judge For Yourself” really takes the mask off the villains, and although it is sad that such a book had to be written, it is nectar and indisputable truth.
BIF: Thank You Prabhu. It is a fact that there are many who will never understand how difficult it has been to deal with this sad dark issue. We have also been classified by the GBC sycophants as vermin. You can read this in their book. However, the truth is, we are dogs; Srila Prabhupada's Pitt Bulls. We will never let go. Even today you cannot put an iskcon cult connected word on a search engine without discovering that His Divine Grace said that he was poisoned, or about his books being tampered with, or the child abuse, or the hijacking of his disciples, or his DOM being concealed, or the murders, or the homosexuality, or the ongoing court cases. And now, as our younger siblings take up the battle, our brothers and sisters who left earlier; who can now put a face to the facade, are returning slowly but surely with retribution in mind. If the GBC will not turn then they will burn, and we will continue to stoke the fire.
>>On your website you have posted that another book is coming out revealing that cadmium in high levels (and probably arsenic too) was added to Srila Prabhupada’s final food supply. I am looking forward to reading this book and I check your website nearly every single day for updates. I hope the truth comes out, one way or the other, because the issue of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning blocks any further progress in Krsna Consciousness through his original ISKCON movement. Unless and until the truth comes out, ISKCON is a dead movement. Nothing can revive ISKCON or save Srila Prabhupada’s books, mission, or instructions EXCEPT for the disclosure of Srila Prabhupada’s murder. That one event will end the façade and put things on the right track. Otherwise, I see no hope.
BIF: Your convictions are exactly in line with ours. Unless Srila Prabhupada's poisoning is dealt with, the oozing of the toxin that is slowly paralyzing iskcon, will never be exposed to antidote. Subtle and chronic, it is triggering an unmistakable rise in insanity. Devotees are loosing their sense of self identification in regards to varna and asrama which is intrinsic to human nature....what to speak of self realization. The removal of Srila Prabhupada's DOM (Direction of Management) has left the iskcon society with only two asramas...devas and doormats. The devas are having an even more serious loss of identification: where the emphasis is placed heavily on celibacy, the celibate devas have already admitted to having sexual intercourse with their enslaved doormats: sex with male disciples; fondling the genitals of little girls; raping little boys, etc., etc. Dirty filthy business even for those who don't accept the existence of God. This is the poisonous legacy of the Ravana, whom Srila Prabhupada said was in the room with him, trying to kill him.
The answer to the question as to how a pure devotee of the Lord could be poisoned is slowly unraveling before our eyes. He allowed it to happen so he could provide us, as a last resort, with the most powerful antidote possible for the curing of his beloved ISKCON; to bring it back from the precipice and away from the abyss where Ravana has dragged it, unchecked. So we are in total agreement with you in that putting the poison issue under the microscope will reveal the cure for ISKCON's malady.
Re. the upcoming report from "Save the Mission" should be on our screens in a short while. We were in contact with its author only this morning. Hopefully he is convinced to permit the posting of at least a few pages for the interest of devotees and other parties who are beginning a push to resolve the issue. We will wait and see.
>>Thank you for the fight,
BIF ...and thank you again for sharing your thoughts with us.
Your unworthy servant,
>>Mahasana dasa
YS
BIF
The reknowned toxicologist- John Harris Trestrail, informs us that poisoning is a household crime, enacted by people who were in a position of trust.....
"....you must seek the individual who had my trust, and thru deceit and cunning into the grave did thrust this body once alive and well, now silenced by death who cannot tell ".
In service to Srila Prabhupada
BIF
The Machiavellian
"To retain power, the hereditary prince must carefully maintain the socio-political institutions to which the people are accustomed; whereas a new prince has the more difficult task in ruling, since he must first stabilize his new-found power in order to build an enduring political structure. That requires the prince being a public figure above reproach, whilst privately acting amorally to achieve State goals".
Umapati Does China
Where did he vanish to, Umapati (swami? gurudeva?), that great spin doctor for the 'Champions of Krsna's Army' (CHAKRA)? After blazing onto the scene; his sunnyasa cloth flying in the wind, and his danda....well, let's not go there. Our interest was piqued when ISKCON's propaganda drum missed several beats in the wake of this GBC endorsed gurus's departure from the cyber circular. We sought him high and we sought him low...and that's where we found him....LOW,.... down in the gutter.
Touching of the private parts and fondling. The statements mentions Maharaja acted inappropriately with 'several devotees'. Maharaja himself stated it was 7 persons, although he didn't state who they were.
Ah yes, he's been in China; his divine hands wok-frying his Chinese disciples...."While serving in his preaching field, Umapati Swami improperly interacted with several male devotees past the boundaries of what is proper". So are we to understand that these 'improprieties' suddenly appeared, or was he nuzzling noodles long before it was discovered he had "slipped past the bounderies of what is proper?" May we suggest that his visits to the subterranean have been uninterrupted since long before his induction into the guru business- (http://jaganat.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/get-the-hell-out-of-my-life/). He knew full well there would be no serious repercussions in the event of disclosure? And true to understanding of his GBC godbrothers, they gave Umapati an all expenses paid holiday to India, where sexual perversions on Indian boys by visiting homosexuals and pedophiles have not yet come under the spotlight, although complaints have been many, and hush money payouts, even more.
When promoting itself as the 'eccessalistical face of Krisna', the GBC does so as an elitist, hierarchical SOCIETY, elected and voted in by themselves, and them alone. When a wart appears on the 'face', the "GBC Party" avoids accountability by implying that it is simply the impropriety of some distant related franchise for which they have no responsibility other than its rectification. And in support of this all too regular 'chameleon' phenomena, the exposed perverts abet the GBC by publicly accepting the role of a franchisee- "I take full responsibility for my actions I alone am to blame". In return for 'taking responsibility' and in spite of ongoing betrayal of trust; the raping of children; the sexual compromise of disciples; the abuse of fiduciary obligation; the public disgrace, and glaring dereliction of the GBC to see beyond its own criminality, the felons are treated to a 'resort' rectification-"Umapati Swami will reside for a time in a holy place, like Mayapur". Whereas rank-and-file doormats must slave incessantly, sometimes for years, before earning a short stop in Mayapur, a GBC appointed "deva" needs only juggle the genitalia of his disciples to secure a bachelor pad at the best address in town.
So now we will look at the 'Agreement' between Umapati and ISKCON's illustrious GBC Ex. Com.:
Umapati Swami and the GBC Executive Committee Agreement
The many years of Umapati Swami's service to Srila Prabhupada is recognized and appreciated. While serving in his preaching field. Umapati Swami improperly interacted with several male devotees past the boundaries of what is proper. In order to assist in the rectification of Umapati Swami. assure the sanctity of the institution and provide shelter for US (Umapati Swami), we have agreed to the following actions:
>Our reports will show, Umapati lied and convoluted the facts* when complaints forced an investigation by the GBC ex. com. We got to hand it to the GBC (no pun intended), even when one of their rubber stamped gurus is a confirmed fraud and God knows what else, they continue to address him as swami and 'provide shelter' for his penchants.
· Effective immediately Umapati Swami will reside for a time in a holy place, likely Mayapur. He will behave in a low-key manner as tirtha sannyasi. For example he will not conduct major ceremonies in the temple such as his Vyasa Puja. He will remain out of his preaching field for two years, starting October 2007.
During this time he will continue as a sannyasi under the mentorship of a monitor committee composed of three senior devotees mutually agreed upon by US and the EC. If the committee cannot be mutually agreed upon, the EC will appoint one member, US another member and the two members the third. All members must be senior devotees in good standing.
>"...senior devotees in good standing?" How can we tell what is which and which is who, when a guru, elected and endorsed by the GBC, from amongst its most senior and long standing members (again, no pun intended), is dogging his male disciples for years? Surely, one would have to be a brainless donkey to persist in the judgment of this woebegone, entrenched dictatorship.
The monitor committee is agreed to consist of Kavicandra Swami, Narasimha Swami, and Janmastami Prabhu (Mayapur). Considering that the incidents in question happened several years ago, his advanced age, his repentant mood and that since that time Umapati Swami has been living a proper sannyasi life, he will continue as a sannyasi. For the time being, he will be under the mentorship of a monitor committee composed of three senior devotees mutually agreed upon by US and the EC.
>It is naive to believe that the 'incidents' happened in the past and then ceased once discovered. In fact it went on for years until his embarrassed disciples could take it no more. However, we are sure that his Chinese recipe book is full of undisclosed erotica, and spring rolls are still available even in the coldest winters and whenever his 'improprieties' dictate. Not all of his dim sims were forthcoming (as revealed in Umapati's statement), nor exposed themselves to the Ex Com., as they did to Umapati's warm hands.
· The committee shall regularly check in with US to assure his welfare and compliance with the terms herein. At the end of this period the committee will report back to the EC. If US has been non-compliant with standard spiritual practices or the agreed terms herein the committee may recommend further action.
>Yeah...and the next time he gets caught with his hands on the nuts, he's headed for Oxford Street in Sydney, Australia, for the annual Mardi Gras. All expenses paid. That'll teach the grabber.
· Umapati Swami agrees not to initiate new disciples and will encourage others to initiate in his preaching field.
>What a relief. No more hemorrhoids for those unsuspecting....well......tie your kaupins tighter and hope for the best.
· Those disciples of Umapati Swami who have lost their faith in him and wish to take shelter elsewhere in ISKCON have his full blessings to do so.
>.....those who still have faith may continue to receive his full blown blessings at his bachelor pad in Mayapur. While those who have lost faith can get blessed and blown at a shelter elsewhere in ISKCON.....the goshala or even the gurukula.
· Those disciples who wish continue taking guidance from Umapati Swami may do so.
> ....and he shall steer thee with his hands firmly placed upon thy rudder.
· After the two year probation period, US will spend more time traveling outside of his preaching field than his previous schedule.
>....this should help him expand someone else's field of activity instead of simply fondling his own.
Now we will hear Umapati's statement:
Statement by Umapati Swami
I would like to offer my apologies to all those whom I have disappointed by my inappopriate behavior some years back, and I would especially like to apologize to those who were victimized by this behavior.
>We wish to point out here that this statement was made sometime in or around '98*. However, and since that time, Umapati has caused a great deal of concern by fronting up at the Hong Kong temple and having disciples from mainland China visiting him. At the end of this statement we will post some letters (dated: 2010) by devotees in that zone voicing concerns to the GBC mouthpiece in Hong Kong...Chandresakar das.
*CORRECTION: THE YEAR WAS 2008
I was living in an isolated situation. I was in a country where Krsna Consciousness is illegal, and I would often go days without association. I tried to encourage some of the men with displays of physical affection, but Maya entered, and things slipped past the boundaries of what is proper.
> Brahmacaris BEWARE. We have warning from a bona fide ISKCON guru: DO NOT wrestle in a country where KC is illegal, or your thing can slip past the boundaries of what is proper. Now there's a thought for the mental munis.
I take full responsibility for my actions I alone am to blame.
>...you blamed Maya Devi, just one sentence ago, rascal.
As a result of my inappropriate behavior some disciples may become disappointed and wish to take shelter elsewhere. If they wish, they have my full blessings to take shelter of senior Vaishnavas within ISKCON. If current disciples have faith in me and wish to continue taking guidance from me I shall humbly serve.
>...and it isn't simply lip service, to be sure.
It is time for me to recharge my spiritual batteries. I plan to work on my own purification by living for some time in a tirtha and associating with my Godbrothers.
Umapati ji, something tells us that your handling fetish would be better curbed in the association of your Godsisters. Anyway, good luck with that.
Umapati Swami
Signed and agreed to by GBC Executive Committee
Here below we are posting "Letters of Concern" sent to us from Mainland China re. Umapati, and the resident GBC sycophant in Hong Kong- Chandrasekra das. Be aware: it is lengthy, but informative.
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:34 PM
Subject: Orient Cheer leader of Homosexual Gurus
Chandrasekara das (Cd) writes:
Understanding the confusion and distress this can cause I wanted to put something to paper that can help such devotees navigate through these situations with the least amount of complication possible.
BIF writes:
Your navigational system was manufactured, installed and operated by the same mariners who have shipwrecked Prabhupada's ISKCON. And, like you, they all claim to be admirals when they are nothing more than buccaneers, playing with their sextants.
Cd:
Throughout the scriptures we learn that one must accept a spiritual master and receive initiation from them if we are to achieve spiritual perfection.
BIF:
Surely, by spiritual master you don't mean those horny devils tumbling off the ISKCON assembly line? A process that you yourself are aspiring to. Nor do we blame you. If you were to die now and pass on to GBC loka, the best you could expect is to end up in a corral, waiting for a GBC branded bull to show up. On the other hand, if you were processed, you could do the bull yourself, just as you are practicing here.
Cd:
As there are different grades of devotees, with different levels of purity and Krishna Consciousness, there are also different levels of spiritual masters with different levels of purity and Krishna Consciousness.
Srila Prabhupada explains further “A person who is liberated acharya and guru cannot commit any mistake, but there are persons who are less qualified or not liberated, but can still act as guru and acharya by strictly following the disciplic succession.” (Letter, 26 April, 1968)
BIF:
Chandrasekara pr., try to understand..the process of proselytism must be pure if it is to carry the weight of parampara. We are concerned with the buggery of disciples, the use of poison, the abuse of children, fraud, embezzlement, acquiring monies under false pretenses, tax fraud, etc., etc., etc., and you are here talking about 'levels of spiritual masters' and 'different levels of purity'. Quit the bull. These guys are charlatans, protected bv a cabal, and you have become their mouthpiece. If you want to know what they are 'strictly following', you will need to get down on all fours and put your nose where they are putting theirs.
Cd:
2) those who are not yet so qualified but who by dint of strictly following their liberated spiritual master and the revealed scriptures are qualified to serve as spiritual masters.
BIF:
Srila Prabhupada never did these dirty things. Where in the scriptures can we read about spiritual masters behaving worse than animals? Even the demons in the sastras cannot compete with the creepy activities of these GBC conjured gurus. In fact, although iskcon preachers are quick to raise themselves above all other isms, there is not a single mainstream religion on the planet that, even after being exposed, will shield their frauds and perverts like current iskcon....as you are doing here. In GBC iskcon, a guru may fondle his disciple's genitals, put his hand back in his bead bag, and still be worshipped as the 'escelleistical face of Krsna', only because sycophants like you use sastra as a goad to 'help' victims 'navigate' back to the gbc.
Cd:
We have understood there are different levels of gurus. A disciple may wonder if the devotional results achieved from surrendering to them are of equal merit. In answer to this we would say that as long as both guru and disciple are properly following guru, sadhu and sastra, then the results achieved will be of equal merit.
BIF:
So what you are saying above, is that thousands, no, millions of bhaktas through the years, have achieved no 'devotional results' because they surrendered to a gbc recommended and rubber stamped guru, who, in fact, was not following guru, sadhu and sastra. So whose fault is this, and how many times has this fault been repeated? The question is not whether the gbc system works or not...it is NOT working. NEVER has. How long must this madness persist before we accept the truth. When can we expect ISKCON to be returned to the shelter of Sri Krsna's mighty General, His Divine Grace, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami?
Cd:
Srila Prabhupada states the following in this regard. “When one is
advanced in devotional service, it is natural that many persons will come to the
devotee for becoming his disciples, and will offer him some material gains. So
if a person becomes attracted to the increased number of disciples and the
material conveniences offered by the disciples, and forgets his duty of as a
bona fide spiritual master, that is another disturbance in the growth of the
plant of devotional service”. (TLC,
BIF:
Bhakti Caru, Jayapataka, Tamal Krsna (late), Radanatha, et al., all these older iskcon/gbc 'gurus', are multi millionaires. All of them have used the caveat above (as you are doing) to subtly blame disciples for the fall down of gurus endorsed by them. However, it is not the disciples that romp around the world like dogs on heat, showering their realizations like confetti while ripping off monies and sexual favors in the guise of gurus.
“The spiritual master should study the disciple’s inquisitiveness for no less than six months or a year. A spiritual master should not be very anxious to accept a disciple because of his material opulences”… “This example indicates that a spiritual master or leader should not be proud of his position”. (Cc Madhya 22.330)
BIF:
It is obvious that you have studied the 'guru section' very closely in the belief that you will be entering that position shortly, and, given the way your sampradaya gurus tumble like skittles, you may jump through the career hoops soon enough. Nonetheless, your sentiments will evolve with time as you realize that the initial concept for iskcon has become secondary to its survival....It's every man for himself and God for the lot. That, dear Chandrasekara pr., is the unwritten law of gbc iskcon.
Cd"
However, if one increases the number of disciples simply for some false prestige or false honor, he will surely fall down in the matter of executing Krishna Consciousness.” (Nectar of Devotion Ch 7)
BIF:
This caveat, although used excessively by gbc administrators to explain away accountability, is never applied in reality. The accumilitation through expansion necessity holds priority over all other iskson policies. Badam bhanga.
Cd:
On the one hand they need
to be careful of accepting too many disciples and accepting them too easily. On
the other hand they need to be careful of their motive in accepting disciples
generally. As Srila Prabhupada states above, ‘accepting too many disciples
without sufficient spiritual power’ and ‘accepting disciples in order to
increase one’s false prestige’ lead to one falling from the strict path of
BIF:
Far too much emphasis is placed on iskcon's guru production business, an industry which, to this point, has proved an incredible loss. Srila Prabhupada built a house in which we all could live amicably and in Krsna consciousness, but there was an unchecked and uninvestigated predatory takeover during, and immediately after, the disappearance of His Divine Grace. What iskcon has now, is a legacy of contamination that will claim even the most sincere. Far too many have acknowledged this and left, seeking sanctuary elsewhere and against their wishes.
Cd:
1) Devotees, who although devotees, were just not properly situated and/or qualified to be gurus to begin with but somehow become gurus. Latter on, however, it becomes apparent that such persons were simply not qualified to serve in that position.
BIF:
They do not 'somehow become gurus'! We all know that they are rubber stamped by the gbc. The question here prabhu, is whether you, when given a rubber stamp, will have the divine vision to differentiate between predator and priest, and the certainty to declare it in the assembly of your seniors? If you have ANY problem with this question, forget all your sastric quotes; your own purity will be contaminated by complicity, and you go down as well. Wrapped in the tentacles of its own ego, this is where gbc iskcon sits, in the quagmire of guru manufacture.
In the service of Srila Prabhupada
BIF
Ten years in production, coming soon, an online free and in-depth report:
THE POISONING OF HIS DIVINE GRACE: The facts and the futility by Restore the Mission
A comprehensive, organized review of the real evidence, facts, and results from the various ISKCON and private investigative efforts into the poisoning of His Divine Grace- both Srila Prabhupada’s physical body as well as His mission to uplift the world.
It will include very significant new scientific and forensic evidence that Srila Prabhupada was indeed deliberately poisoned with malicious intent. Originally there was evidence that Prabhupada’s hair contained about 10-20 times normal arsenic, which would be a serious health hazard. A series of further tests on hair samples gathered but abandoned by ISKCON leadership, and then tested privately reveal the actual poison to be cadmium, in 150-250 times the normal amounts.
The report will also fully discredit the book Not That I Am Poisoned, published in 2000 by ISKCON leadership, as being deceitful, erroneous, and a whitewash. It will serve to clear the air of wild speculations, uninformed guessing, and widespread misunderstandings.
The preponderance of total evidence will surely convince an unbiased person that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned with homicidal intent, although by whom remains inconclusive. Therefore further investigation should be undertaken by ISKCON leadership, which unfortunately is unlikely due to heavy conflict of material interests.
The purpose of this report is to present the evidence and facts, with sensible and logical interpretation of their meaning. Then the reader may judge for themselves whether the matter deserves further attention or not.
Letters to the void:
A collection of letters in response to G.B.C. indifference
